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Torture: Brainwashing vs. Information, Politics vs. Protection

Torture: Brainwashing vs. Information, Politics vs. Protection

Did Bush/Cheney torture to get FALSE confessions rather than intelligence?

Since the torture techniques used were known by those who ordered them NOT to produce reliable intelligence, but WERE known to be useful for BRAINWASHING...., for breaking people... * (See below for some supporting evidence)

... THEN isn't the obvious conclusion that Bush/Cheney wanted people broken down so that they would TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR and BELIEVE IT?

Doesn't it make sense that they wanted the detainees to say: There was a link to Saddam that they were planing hundreds of attacks that had been foiled by Bush and Cheney and the Iraq invasion? Dirty bombs, bio weapons, etc.

Bush/Cheney had the courts all ready on the other end to accept coerced confessions.

Was the Bush/Cheney strategy to brainwash the detainees to be actors in a play that would "prove" the rational for the Iraq war, their changes to our Constitution, and consolidate their power?

The evidence is mounting that the techniques used were known by all who advocated for them not to produce reliable intelligence.
Examples:
1) The SERE program was for resisting "BRAINWASHING" by the Soviets or Chinese, to prevent an America prisoner from being used as a propaganda tool saying: "Thank you from freeing me from the Fascist USA..." ect.  Everyone knew this, they keep talking about "breaking their will" not "getting good intelligence".

2) The detainees were tortured long after there knowledge of current operations had expired.

3) The detainees were picked up by bounty hunters and didn't know anything.

4) An NPR interview April 24 with a SERE trainer who saw and criticized the methods supports that the idea that the goal was to break down these folks.

5) Sleep deprivation and starvation in particular is good for brainwashing but not for good information.

*After torture wouldn't getting them to say "Death to America" to bring and end to their torment be easier than getting an American POW to say the Vietcong are right?
So the goal of brainwashing may have seemed reasonable.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403171_ 2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2009042403 231

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Washington did not torture.


Gen. George Washington did not torture.  At the time of the Revolutionary War we enshrined rights that made us "less safe" against Colonists loyal to England. No cruel punishment, no dention with a judge, jury and calling witnesses. Doesn't sound like a winning stratagy. We have survived because of our higher standards not because of them. America IS these principles and the existential threat that the Terrorist hope manifest is that we act on on fears, then their law rules US
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